Frankie Kazarian On TNA World Title Win: Sometimes Joker Beats Batman, Sometimes The Bad Guy Wins
Frankie Kazarian responds to the controversy.
On the November 13, 2025 episode of TNA iMPACT, Kazarian shocked the world by cashing in his Call Your Shot trophy on Mike Santana to win the TNA World Champion. This decision frustrated fans around the world of wrestling, as it came just over 30 days after Santana’s emotional title victory at Bound For Glory.
Speaking with Chris Van Vliet for a new interview, Kazarian reminded everyone that the bad guy wins sometimes.
“Good. You know, it’s show business. Sometimes the Joker beats Batman, sometimes the bad guy wins. What matters to me is that they’re angry, and that tells me that they care, tells me that they’re paying attention.”
Kazarian then spoke about his character’s decision to take advantage of Santana when he was down and out.
“From a character standpoint, why would I not go after a wounded animal when I see one? That’s kind of bad guy 101. We’re still in the storytelling business, and the business has evolved and gotten rather complex, but at the end of the day, it’s still kind of black hat versus white hat. At least that’s the way I approach it.”
Elsewhere in the interview, Frankie Kazarian spoke about winning his first world title at 48 years old. Check out his full comments by clicking here.
Special thanks to Chris Van Vliet and his team for the quote(s) in this video.
