Bret Hart: I Don’t Know If Cody Rhodes Could Turn Heel

Bret Hart doesn’t know if Cody Rhodes could turn heel.

Since Elimination Chamber earlier this year, the topic of Cody Rhodes possibly turning heel has been ever present in the pro wrestling community. As of yet, Cody has not turned heel and has remained one of, if not the top babyface in WWE.

While speaking to the Rap on Wrestling Podcast ahead of WWE SummerSlam 2025, Bret was asked about a potential double turn with Cody Rhodes and John Cena. Bret would remark that he isn’t sure if Cody could turn heel at this stage of his career.

“I don’t see Cody turning heel. Not yet. I don’t know if like, I don’t know if Cody could turn heel. Like, I don’t know. It’s a whole different pair of boots to wear when you’re heel. Like, it’s a different thing and I say that with now looking at John Cena, who I used to say for years, that’s the one guy that could never turn heel because he was just too much of a baby face and too much of a hero and too much of a guy that kids looked up to and was a natural baby face, and his style, like his wrestling style. Like I can remember when I was, when I turned heel years ago, back with Jim Neidhart, the Hart Foundation. I remember doing drop kicks on guys, and I remember guys going, ‘heels don’t do drop kicks, what are you doing?’ and I’m like, because I turned heel I forgot every move that I ever did. Now all I know how to do is cheat now? But with John Cena, his style, I never saw him ever being a bad guy. He just, to me, was a good guy through and through. I kind of used to say the same thing about Hulk Hogan, that he could never be a bad guy, that he was too sort of cemented into being a baby face. But I will say that John Cena has surprised me and has turned out to be a good heel. I guess if you think about it and you know you can do it, I do think there’s a lot that- you can be a great babyface and not be a great heel, and you can be a great heel and not be a great babyface. They’re not naturally… They’re not just givens that you can do either one. You have to understand what’s the best way to do it.”

Elsewhere in another recent interview, Bret would praise Cody Rhodes’ worked punches. You can read more about that here.

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